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richox12

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Regarding the removal of the Cecil Rhodes Statue at Oxford University.....


This letter is long but very worthwhile. Chancellor of Oxford University, was on the Today Programme on BBC Radio 4 yesterday on the removal of statues of people linked to slavery. Interesting statements. The Daily Telegraph headline yesterday was "Oxford will not rewrite history".
Patten commented "“Education is not indoctrination. Our history is not a blank page on which we can write our own version of what it should have been according to our contemporary views and prejudice"
Rhodes must fall ????

Dear students,
Cecil Rhodes’s generous bequest has contributed greatly to the comfort and well being of many generations of Oxford students – a good many of them, dare we say it, better, brighter and more deserving than you.
This does not necessarily mean we approve of everything Rhodes did in his lifetime – but then we don’t have to. Cecil Rhodes died over a century ago. Autres temps, autres moeurs 2. If you don’t understand what this means – and it would not remotely surprise us if that were the case – then we really think you should ask yourself the question: “Why am I at Oxford?”

Oxford, let us remind you, is the world’s second oldest extant university. Scholars have been studying here since at least the 11th century. We’ve played a major part in the invention of Western civilisation, from the 12th century intellectual renaissance through the Enlightenment and beyond. Our alumni include William of Ockham, Roger Bacon, William Tyndale, John Donne, Sir Walter Raleigh, Erasmus, Sir Christopher Wren, William Penn, Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA), Samuel Johnson, Robert Hooke, William Morris, Oscar Wilde, Emily Davison, Cardinal Newman. We’re a big deal. And most of the people privileged to come and study here are conscious of what a big deal we are. Oxford is their alma mater – their dear mother – and they respect and revere her accordingly.

And what were your ancestors doing in that period? Living in mud huts, mainly. Sure we’ll concede you the short lived Southern African civilisation of Great Zimbabwe. But let’s be brutally honest here. The contribution of the Bantu tribes to modern civilisation has been as near as damn it to zilch.
You’ll probably say that’s “racist”. But it’s what we here at Oxford prefer to call “true.” Perhaps the rules are different at other universities. In fact, we know things are different at other universities. We’ve watched with horror at what has been happening across the pond from the University of Missouri to the University of Virginia and even to revered institutions like Harvard and Yale: the “safe spaces”; the #blacklivesmatter; the creeping cultural relativism; the stifling political correctness; what Allan Bloom rightly called “the closing of the American mind”. At Oxford however, we will always prefer facts and free, open debate to petty grievance-mongering, identity politics and empty sloganeering. The day we cease to do so is the day we lose the right to call ourselves the world’s greatest university.

Of course, you are perfectly within your rights to squander your time at Oxford on silly, vexatious, single-issue political campaigns. (Though it does make us wonder how stringent the vetting procedure is these days for Rhodes scholarships and even more so, for Mandela Rhodes scholarships) We are well used to seeing undergraduates – or, in your case – postgraduates, making idiots of themselves. Just don’t expect us to indulge your idiocy, let alone genuflect before it. You may be black – “BME” as the grisly modern terminology has it – but we are colour blind. We have been educating gifted undergraduates from our former colonies, our Empire, our Commonwealth and beyond for many generations. We do not discriminate over sex, race, colour or creed. We do, however, discriminate according to intellect.

That means, inter alia, that when our undergrads or postgrads come up with fatuous ideas, we don’t pat them on the back, give them a red rosette and say: “Ooh, you’re black and you come from South Africa. What a clever chap you are!”1 No. We prefer to see the quality of those ideas tested in the crucible of public debate. That’s another key part of the Oxford intellectual tradition you see: you can argue any damn thing you like but you need to be able to justify it with facts and logic – otherwise your idea is worthless.

This ludicrous notion you have that a bronze statue of Cecil Rhodes should be removed from Oriel College, because it’s symbolic of “institutional racism” and “white slavery”. Well even if it is – which we dispute – so bloody what? Any undergraduate so feeble-minded that they can’t pass a bronze statue without having their “safe space” violated really does not deserve to be here. And besides, if we were to remove Rhodes’s statue on the premise that his life wasn’t blemish-free, where would we stop? As one of our alumni Dan Hannan has pointed out, Oriel’s other benefactors include two kings so awful – Edward II and Charles I – that their subjects had them killed. The college opposite – Christ Church – was built by a murderous, thieving bully who bumped off two of his wives. Thomas Jefferson kept slaves: does that invalidate the US Constitution? Winston Churchill had unenlightened views about Muslims and India: was he then the wrong man to lead Britain in the war?”

Actually, we’ll go further than that. Your Rhodes Must Fall campaign is not merely fatuous but ugly, vandalistic and dangerous. We agree with Oxford historian RW Johnson that what you are trying to do here is no different from what ISIS and the Al-Qaeda have been doing to artefacts in places like Mali and Syria. You are murdering history.

And who are you, anyway, to be lecturing Oxford University on how it should order its affairs? Your #rhodesmustfall campaign, we
understand, originates in South Africa and was initiated by a black activist who told one of his lecturers “whites have to be killed”. One of you – Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh – is the privileged son of a rich politician and a member of a party whose slogan is “Kill the Boer; Kill the Farmer”; another of you, Ntokozo Qwabe, who is only in Oxford as a beneficiary of a Rhodes scholarship, has boasted about the need for “socially conscious black students” to “dominate white universities, and do so ruthlessly and decisively!”

Great. That’s just what Oxford University needs. Some cultural enrichment from the land of Winnie Mandela, burning tyre necklaces, an AIDS epidemic almost entirely the result of government indifference and ignorance, one of the world’s highest per capita murder rates, institutionalised corruption, tribal politics, anti-white racism and a collapsing economy. Please name which of the above items you think will enhance the lives of the 22,000 students studying here at Oxford.

And then please explain what it is that makes your attention grabbing campaign to remove a listed statue from an Oxford college more urgent, more deserving than the desire of probably at least 20,000 of those 22,000 students to enjoy their time here unencumbered by the irritation of spoilt, ungrateful little tossers on scholarships they clearly don’t merit using racial politics and cheap guilt-tripping to ruin the life and fabric of our beloved university.
Understand us and understand this clearly: you have everything to learn from us; we have nothing to learn from you.

Yours,
Oriel College, Oxford
I so very much hope that's for real.
 

Dave

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BLM - doing good so far...

 

Wise Owl

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The labour party are not fit to shovel s**t. They are the ultimate traitors to the working classes.

Spudnudd, the guardian and mirror in the same sentence as `newspapers`?
Is that why they Got Trounced at the Last GE ? And does that make all who still vote for em too Dumb to see what really going on ?
 

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Wise one, there are plenty who cannot bring themselves to vote conservative, that is changing. There are plenty who vote labour and
are stuck in their ways, that is also changing. All this stuff going on but although the silent majority may be silent they are still the majority.
I hope that made sense.
 

Wise Owl

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Wise one, there are plenty who cannot bring themselves to vote conservative, that is changing. There are plenty who vote labour and
are stuck in their ways, that is also changing. All this stuff going on but although the silent majority may be silent they are still the majority.
I hope that made sense.
I think so mate, so the Labour Voters are those who dont work, dont speak our Lingo, and dont want to admit they are Sh;te (y)
 

muskrat

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I wonder how these diversity types would feel if a company who had more BAME staff than the 6% or so representative of the British population, was targeted and told they had too many BAME and needed to employ more white people?
 

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A black man kills 3 white people its a terrorist attack. A white copper kills a blackman doing his job badly its a racist attack. Is all america blm movement going mad about the stabbings in reading. No they are not cos white lives apparently dont matter.. We should all be going protesting about this but we would all be labelled neo nazi right wing facists cant make this up
 

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I bet the White people Protesting with the Black people dont give a toss either, what they dont realise is they are Fueling a fire for when its Blazing they will be put on it as they are the ones who wont matter once BLM get what they want.
 

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Reuben old bean, utter hogwash? Soldier P ?

I have one foot that sticks out at a slight angle, I would not have got past the first interview nevermind a medical. My dad was the same
but they were only too happy to take him in 1939 when he volunteered. My grandfather was shot in France and once recovered in England
sent back., both his brothers were killed within days of each other in 1917.

I take a dim view of being referred to as a f***wit from civvy street. I respect our servicemen without question. If you are angry don`t take
it out on me. Perhaps you will find the f***wit slightly closer to home.
I wasn’t actually referring to you personally. However, if the cap fits don’t hesitate to wear it PG. My condolences to your family.
 
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