lignum sticks

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hi all, does anyone remember a lignum stick that had almost a body near the base of the lignum stem . i cant remember who these were made by but it must be over 20 years ago and were great floats . not sure if they were maybe britannia , dick cleggs .
 

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They were indeed made by Britannia Angling, and came in 3 sizes, 5, 6, and 7 No4's. Each weight had it's own colour too, 5 No4's were Caribbean Blue (metalic) body, 6 No4's were Deep Crimson and 7 No4's were Black. The 'bulb' on the stem kept them more stable in medium to fast flowing rivers when trotting. They were tested heavily by the Barnsley Blacks before going into general production.
How do I know all this? I made them when working for Dick Clegg at Britannia Angling Products in Hoyle Mill, Barnsley. I still have a few.
Not all of the Lignums had that 'bulb' on the stem, they were a 'special'.
 
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Drennan had a similar style, made with dense plastic rather than lignum, called a stable stick. (plastic vs lignum... lignum every time... )
 

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@stickfloatkev

They were indeed made by Britannia Angling, and came in 3 sizes, 5, 6, and 7 No4's. Each weight had it's own colour too, 5 No4's were Caribbean Blue (metalic) body, 6 No4's were Deep Crimson and 7 No4's were Black. The 'bulb' on the stem kept them more stable in medium to fast flowing rivers when trotting. They were tested heavily by the Barnsley Blacks before going into general production.
How do I know all this? I made them when working for Dick Clegg at Britannia Angling Products in Hoyle Mill, Barnsley. I still have a few.
I'm sure I had a set with MAP logo on them, great floats and as rare as hen's teeth now, might be worth a few bob:)
 

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These are the original Dick Clegg ones before they were colour coded...

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The smaller 4 No4's were not popular and dropped from production.
 

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The angling stuff that was in the now repurposed box contains a hell of a load of older floats, and as it appens Im just looking at a fair few this very minute, Ive cleaned and wiped over the three large double sided boxes that contain my collection of "Denton" floats, and given the collection a wipe over too, I love these floats, and have at least two of every pattern and size of every float they ever made

and lo and behold Im now just alooking at some vintage "Cleggys" which include a few lignum sticks, but the ones carrying his name I would like some info on @ukzero1 if you can help are some cleggy pole-whip type floats marked "Brittania"

they are brown balsa with cane stems and long thin attenae tips, highly laquered some of the tips are tinted black to half way up thier length, the rest are just plain red-yellow

all are proper side eyed

2 body styles, the first ones, which are the heaviest weighted up to 1.5 gramme are very much like a typical avon shape, with a bulb at the top tapering thinner as it goes down

the second lot are the same but with the body shape reversed with the tip tapering to a low down body bulk and are lighter weighted up to 1.25 gramme

the biggest float is approx 6 inchs long and the smallest 0.1gramme is about 4 inches long

an age for them and a name would be proper handy
 

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Can you put any pics up mate? I'll do what I can to help out but I was on the waggler/stick float side of float making 90% of the time. Another chap did the pole floats.
 

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Yes I remember them stable sticks, drennan also did a crystal stem version. Good for casting distance but you had to get it right or tangle was common with all the weight at the stem. Still have a few somewhere in a box dick clegg jobs. Better for deep pegs.
 

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Can you put any pics up mate? I'll do what I can to help out but I was on the waggler/stick float side of float making 90% of the time. Another chap did the pole floats.

blown that then, piccies are far beyond my tech ability
 

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ukzero1 you are bang on . they were indeed the stable stick . fantastic floats. apart from dave harrell now , who are making decent stick floats because im struggling to find any or is it that they are less common now because of a lack of river float anglers
 

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ukzero1 you are bang on . they were indeed the stable stick . fantastic floats. apart from dave harrell now , who are making decent stick floats because im struggling to find any or is it that they are less common now because of a lack of river float anglers
There's some really good Lignum sticks on eBay, some nice wire stem sticks as well.
 

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hi all, does anyone remember a lignum stick that had almost a body near the base of the lignum stem . i cant remember who these were made by but it must be over 20 years ago and were great floats . not sure if they were maybe britannia , dick cleggs .
I'm sure I still have a couple in my garage :LOL:
 

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I bought a set of lignum sticks in late 70s early 80s, am sure they were Ultra, brilliant stick floats. (y)
Ultra lignum sticks - I used them for everything other than fishing off the rod end - I was gutted when they stopped making them.

I remember the Drennan floats with the heavy plastic stems too - I tried them and don't recall there was anything particularly wrong with them it was just that stick floats should be made of wood :p The larger sizes did come in handy occasionally due to their large shot carrying capacity - much greater than a stick float made of traditional materials.

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Ultra stickfloats. Ohh! Stickfloat porn. Strangely I don't get that excited over a 10g plastic Pellet waggler.

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It may be me but todays "Lignum" sticks don't seen to have the same dense Lignum of days gone by floats. I've got some Dave Harrells and for the same shotting capacity, they're a bigger float. When I'm on the river stickfloat fishing, I invariably put an Ultra on the line. They're just right.
 

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Ultra stickfloats. Ohh! Stickfloat porn. Strangely I don't get that excited over a 10g plastic Pellet waggler.

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It may be me but todays "Lignum" sticks don't seen to have the same dense Lignum of days gone by floats. I've got some Dave Harrells and for the same shotting capacity, they're a bigger float. When I'm on the river stickfloat fishing, I invariably put an Ultra on the line. They're just right.
And you'd be right. Most (but not all) so called Lignum's of today is a copy made of some form of heavy plastic and not wood at all.
 

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I've made half decent heavy base sticks using 3mm solid carbon rod, sorting out the taper with a chisel and glass paper; occasionally made a good 'un with glassfibre rod as well. I use kids' paintbrush handles for sticks similar to the original John Dean sticks (still got plenty of originals as well as ome Ultra lignums).
 
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