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Simon R

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It's me asking for some rod information.:D

I braved the rain earlier and went to the local Bank Holiday car boot sale at Stokesley.
There's an old chap who attends many of the local sales with a van load of fishing gear - I've bought from him in the past. I was checking out the gear he had out, which wasn't much due to the size of his awning and he invited me to have a look at a couple of rods that weren't on display that he thought I would like. First was a 15' Tricast - possibly the Trophy - certainly a spliced tip stick float rod, very tippy - lovely rod but he wanted £60 for it and I already have a couple of rods of that length anyway.

Second rod was only twenty quid - far more affordable and does fit a bit of a gap in my armoury - a 13' waggler rod - Daiwa Amorphous Whisker Waggler Special (AWM 13W)
I know it dates from the early 90s and slotted into the range just below the Tommy Pickering endorsed Connoisseur rods but I have something of a Daiwa catalogue 'black-hole' between 1989 and 1996. The Connoisseur X range was new in 1996 and 'based on the famous Daiwa Amorphous match rods'.
I rather got the impression that this rod was something of a 'stepped-up' version of the standard waggler rod but just how stepped-up is it?
Acolyte Plus or Acolyte carp?:p

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From a different seller I picked up a Shakespeare Borak Barbel Specialist - twin tip (Avon style and quiver tip) - the Avon tip has lost the last 3" which I wasn't bothered about as I'll only be using the quivertip section anyway.
Dates from 2006 and was £54 in that years catalogue - I paid under a tenner(y)

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Simon,
From what I remember, I don't believe that it was a stepped-up rod at all. Daiwa did occasionally throw in stepped up models in certain ranges, XP (Extra Power) and Long Distance (LD) models. Those versions weren't usual in the early nineties ranges. I'm fairly sure that the AWM13W model was just a standard match (waggler) rod. The alternative being an AWM13L version which was a lighter action and the spliced tip stick float rod AWM13S. However, though I've never seen one, I have seen the odd mention of an AWM13H(W) (presumably HW=Heavy Waggler). Sadly, I don't have my stash of catalogues to confirm one way or another.
 

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In the 1996 catalogue the new Conny X range are suffixed LD & P for long-distance and power respectively
I would have expected to see one of those letters, however it's just the words Waggler Special that make me think it's maybe a bit beefier than the standard rod - only one way to find out;)

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In the 1996 catalogue the new Conny X range are suffixed LD & P for long-distance and power respectively
I would have expected to see one of those letters, however it's just the words Waggler Special that make me think it's maybe a bit beefier than the standard rod - only one way to find out;)

Simon
Simon,
I own both of the similar vintage versions of the Tom Pickering Matchwinners. The later model, the S version is labelled as a "Waggler Specials". The older original Tom Pickering Matchwinner is not. The blanks are slightly different, but the power of them is neither here nor there and I'm pretty sure that the line ratings were identical. The spliced tip version of the Matchwinner-S was also labelled as a "Stick Float Special" where its predecessor was just "Stick".

When there is a Light (L) version, and suggestions of a Heavy (H) version in the AWM range, I believe it to be highly unlikely that the Waggler (W) version is a stepped up rod, even if it is also labelled as "Waggler Special".

It's a shame that Daiwa insisted on using overly long names (which different people use different parts of to describe the same rod) inconsistent prefixes/suffixes and often repeated names, or part names. It only leads to this type of confusion.
 

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Hi Simon. I have two of the model you mention: AWM13W. Very nice general purpose float rod for lines down to 12oz (Bayer?), and mainlines to 3lb, and fits the bill for most of my Trent floatfishing, with waggler and stick. At £20, something of a steal, especially provided the tip section is full length
 

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I'm pretty sure the AWL/M range were top of the range when they came out, only then being superseded by the Conny range when they got released.

The prefix "W" and "S" IIRC were just Waggler rod and Stick rod.


I never liked Daiwa's float rods, but I own the whole AWL range, bar the canal one.
 

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Daiwa Amorphous Whisker Waggler Special (AWM 13W) £20 bargain Simon,
 

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Hi mate,, I’ve still got both the AWM13H rod,, and the AWM13S rods, in the loft,, ive used the 13H at woodlands,, and if there was some decent rivers round here,, I’d still use the 13S for the stick,, ive also still got the tommy Pickering conny 13ft,, from the 90’s aswell,, brilliant rods, Sod’s law, the only car boot I missed, cause I had to work this mornin,, and I miss a bargain😢😢😢
 

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So we got a heavy, a super light and I've got the bog-standard waggler
Versatility is good(y)

Simon
 

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Simon, I’ve not forgotten those old catalogues we spoke about , they’ll be on their way soon.👍
 

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