Looking through my massive box of old floats I came across a number of original Ivan sticks purchased by me in the day. Strange thing is after a breaf try out I never again used them. In fact can't remember any local match men in the day using them. Could have been a north south devide. Or maybe everyone found them unsuitable for Northern rivers. Either way could not get on with them. Did anyone actually use them. A similar stick in my box was the middy sticks cane stem again not great.