Car free London

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Khan has announced a total ban on all vehicles entering certain parts of London for one day so people can remember what it was like before it became full of traffic.

He's already getting complaints, from the Transport manager at Centre for London and Greater London Authority Conservative Transport.

Of course, when it all goes wrong Khan will be to blame for it, nobody else ever has any input in the running of London, oh no, just Khan he's the only one who makes the decisions!
 

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you cant do that until there are alternative commercial delivery options, its a financial and commercial hub for a reason, he is a total twit in that and many other ways, looking forward to when we have AI driverless cars and commercial vehicles, lets remove the part that causes issues i.e. humans
 

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Did he/they think about the disabled who are unable to get about without their transport, are they supposed to use the expensive hackney Cabs.

Why shouldn't Khan shoulder the blame, he was quick enough to blame Boris Johnson for the plans put into place while he was Mayor.
 

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Did he/they think about the disabled who are unable to get about without their transport, are they supposed to use the expensive hackney Cabs.

Why shouldn't Khan shoulder the blame, he was quick enough to blame Boris Johnson for the plans put into place while he was Mayor.
All Part of living in a big City Geoff :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

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How many of you jumping in feet first and castigating the Mayor of London for no other reason than premeditated prejudice, live in towns and cities that have pedestrianised centres, if anyone cares to have a quick look at the report( it takes a minute on google) you will see the group behind this PROPOSAL say London has less pedestrianised zones than much of the UK and they want to address that.
 
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How many of you jumping in feet first and castigating the Mayor of London for no other reason than premeditated prejudice, live in towns and cities that have pedestrianised centres, if anyone cares to have a quick look at the report( it takes a minute on google) you will see the group behind this PROPOSAL say London has less pedestrianised zones than much of the UK and they want to address that.
What a load of crud..... London is a city with 7,000.000 inhabitants and that means shops, resaurants, businesses... all needing transport to keep them going... how the hell that idiot can stop traffic in some parts on a whim is totally and utterly arrogant and slow-witted in the extreme and its got nothing to do with race religion or creed the man's bloody incapable, and a moron to boot... it works in other cities because the access is there to start with...London is one of the oldest cities in this country and certainly the largest so moving infrastructure about to appease an idiot is not really on the cards....
 

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A ban on cars would be an excellent idea. London has an excellent network of buses, tubes and trains. The mark 1 leg also comes in handy. All the buses are wheelchair capable, virtually all tube and rail stations are wheelchair accessible and all tube, overground and mainline trains are wheelchair friendly. People could try cycling - from experience it's a quick way to get around London.
 

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What a load of crud..... London is a city with 7,000.000 inhabitants and that means shops, resaurants, businesses... all needing transport to keep them going... how the hell that idiot can stop traffic in some parts on a whim is totally and utterly arrogant and slow-witted in the extreme and its got nothing to do with race religion or creed the man's bloody incapable, and a moron to boot... it works in other cities because the access is there to start with...London is one of the oldest cities in this country and certainly the largest so moving infrastructure about to appease an idiot is not really on the cards....
"THAT IDIOT", again premeditated prejudice, a team of people have looked at this it is not down to one persons "whim" so how is he a "moron"

Every town or city that have pedestrianised zones have all of the retail outlets you describe and they are serviced mostly out of main working day hours why should areas of London be any different, nobody is suggesting the whole of the city just areas where it is possible. Look at what red hill phil has posted he nails it for the reasons why this is much easier to implement in London than many other towns and cities country wide where it has been done.
 

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Why is it much easier to implement in London than other towns?
London will see far more traffic than every other city in the UK (I posted on another thread - its approx 40,000 per day going into Central London)and if you close areas down all you are doing is redirecting it somewhere else - this compounds the problem more as it just gridlocks other roadways where problems may not have existed before.
Not quite sure how you can really make your statement that if can be done so easily without knowing how the road networks works,the volume of traffic and what the proposals are.

Phil's post makes no consideration to hauliers or those that need to take their vehicles into areas for their work.
And surely these will be the areas which will see the most pedestrian volume
 

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Leeds has Pedestrian areas and its a ball ache when me and Jnr do jobs in the centre, we have to be off the Precincts by 10 am which means Tools, Materials, even Skips have to be filled and taken away while the driver waits, we get charged like for it, Then ya gotta find a parking space maybe a mile away, if yer vehicle is on after 10 its towed away. London would be a nightmare for the building trade if it adopted the same.
 

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Wise one,,, why would someone want to be buried with their arms in the air?
 

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A ban on cars would be an excellent idea. London has an excellent network of buses, tubes and trains. The mark 1 leg also comes in handy. All the buses are wheelchair capable, virtually all tube and rail stations are wheelchair accessible and all tube, overground and mainline trains are wheelchair friendly. People could try cycling - from experience it's a quick way to get around London.
Do you travel on the tube in London on a regular basis? It can’t cope with the number of people that use it on a daily basis now, let alone if all the car users want to use it as well on that day.
 

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Leeds has traffic controls in place, pedestrian precincts, car restricted areas, and expensive car parking, all to deter motorists.

It has thriving out of town shopping centres with acres of free parking and lots of boarded up or empty shops in the town centre.
Keeping traffic out of town centres isn't good for retail
 

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The last Pub Restaurant i did in the Trinity, the one with all the shops in was a nightmare even having to book a spot in the loading bay to get Materials and tools in, mind you once i Bent up the guy on the Barrier i had no problems ;)
 

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He's already getting complaints, from the Transport manager at Centre for London and Greater London Authority Conservative Transport.
Oops, sorry folks i forgot to mention the complaints... the centre for London and the GLA Conservatives...are both complaining he isn't doing enough and is only closing the roads for one day whch is a waste of time, it should be longer they say or at least more of them and the london bus fleet should be cleaned up.

The London assembley have announced their ULEZ for the city center and they have decided even cabs, and delivery vehicles, etc will have to pay the pollution charge this time.

@Geoff P the cabs are also banned from the area on the "clean air day"!
 

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