Dave, as I have a van and keep the 4 wheel trolley asembled, just wheel,it out of the garage and into the van, space isn’t an issue. If you want a go with the double wheels you are welcome to borrow mine, not sure if Rick sorted an issue with them, the inner tubes were being moved and pulling the valve out, especially if loaded right up, I know I wasn’t alone with the issue. I bought some solid wheels to replace the pneumatic, but never got round to fitting them.Chris I binned my MAP trolley as it took up valuable space in the car and the Octbox wheel and arms stow easily behind the seats. If you don't use your Octbox double front wheel and want to sell it, give me a shout as I'll be ordering one soon.
It does make me smile when I read comments that 36mm diameter legs are essential for stability - especially when the box spends 99% of its time on a perfectly flat peg on a commercial somewhere.
I must admit the marketing guys at the various companies that sell 36mm legs boxes have done a really good PR job on these - because of course an entire new set of accessories will be required - so not only have you been conned out of a four-figure sum for an overpriced box you also need to spend a few hundred more quid on the myriad of attachments that are also thought to be essential.
The original square legged Preston Onbox (25mm?) I owned for the best part of fifteen years and used it on commercials, on (and in) rivers, on rocky Irish loughs and everything in between and not once did I feel unsteady or worry that I was about to fall off. Even the old Octoplus legs were perfectly adequate and they were only 18mm?
You won't go wrong with the Matrix S25 although be careful - it's only got 25mm legs so could collapse at any moment.
That’s reassuring cos I got worriedNice looking (cardboard) box, hope you get many happy years usage from it
I have to laugh with SimonR ... I sometimes use a fox platform with long (42 inch) Penrose legs on steep banks such as the Wye or in deep margins like the drains. They are 18mm.
As for best seat box ... for me an AS1 is good enough ... perfect for my height and virtually indestructible. I’ve had one of my three for nearly 30 years now.