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groundhog
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 Posted - 06 September 2012 : 9:51:26 PM
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 pooner mate, I think you summed it up very niceley in in your sentence" everything should be done in camera preferably", in my opinion a good photgrapher has an eye for a good picture and a natural eye for framing composing and manually setting his camera in order to get that really good Wow factor picture in one go direct from his or her camera. |
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Posted - 06 September 2012 : 10:45:08 PM
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CBE...
For me digital lacks one important thing!
Having something tangible to handle like negatives, slides and prints!
I used to get a real buzz and anticipation when my processed media flopped through my letter box and I get to see if my efforts have been successful or not....Often not!
But loading a memory card into a pc just doesn't give me anywhere near the same thrill!...
I sold my Canon T-90 years ago and I still regret it!!!
The days when taking 36 frames rewarded you, if you were lucky, with 1 or 2 decent images!!!
That's proper Photography IMHO!!!
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carpmon43
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Posted - 07 September 2012 : 1:12:52 PM
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morning hahahaha
without the studio..you have to set to whats best, or tweek it a bit on a pc so it definatly offers more options..(more scope).
the rest is purely subject to personal preference. (ego..dudahh).
its bloody hard to beet a good straight exsposure untampered though.
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Posted - 07 September 2012 : 4:43:48 PM
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One down side, as far as I'm concerned, about digital photography, is the real life photo has gone.
Days of getting the photo album out to show little 'un growing up etc, distant memories.
I know you can take your disc and get photos printed off, does anyone do this?
Now it's, pull out the laptop/pc, sit back and watch the slide show. Just feels so different...
Progress, I suppose......:( |
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Posted - 08 September 2012 : 6:49:33 PM
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| Companies regularly do deals online for cheap (1p per print) or free prints / cheap canvas prints / cheap photo books. Getting actual physical prints has never been cheaper or easier, if you do 5 minutes research online. |
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Posted - 10 September 2012 : 4:33:37 PM
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Posted - 10 September 2012 : 9:26:28 PM
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| quote : Originally posted by H T B
One down side, as far as I'm concerned, about digital photography, is the real life photo has gone.
Days of getting the photo album out to show little 'un growing up etc, distant memories.
I know you can take your disc and get photos printed off, does anyone do this?
Now it's, pull out the laptop/pc, sit back and watch the slide show. Just feels so different...
Progress, I suppose......:(
Yes I've noticed this. And we now take about 25 photos of the same shot, I'm guilty of it myself. When we used to use a roll and only had 36 pictures to take, they were more special in a way.
I used to love that trip to Max Speilmans to collect my photos after they'd been developing to see what photos I'd taken, I'd try and see if I could make it all the way home before I caved and opened them.
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Posted - 10 September 2012 : 11:18:31 PM
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| I also shoot in RAW but I do not believe in adjusting the photos I take to make them "look better" |
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Posted - 11 September 2012 : 07:47:06 AM
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Totally agree with the above, lots of post processing went on in the darkroom also
Dodging and burning was a common practice, as was exposure adjustment
Often contrast and saturation could be altered just by use of different paper, so alteration to the final product is nothing new
If you do shoot in RAW and convert with zero adjustments, especially to sharpness and contrast, you realy are loosing out on the power of RAW and would be better versed in shooting straight jpg in the first place
All cameras will produce a flat unsharp image from RAW, thats the very nature of the beast
The best way I can describe it, is that RAW should be treat as a 'digital negative', that needs to be 'developed' to release its full glory
RAW & the digital darkroom, go hand in hand for the modern photographer |
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Posted - 12 September 2012 : 12:39:17 AM
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I have been digital for over 10 years but have never used the RAW function!
Could someone point out what RAW is and how to best use it?
I know that it is not compressed like a jpeg but I'd like to know more about it before I venture in that direction... |
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Posted - 12 September 2012 : 07:55:24 AM
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Far better description/comparison than I could ever begin to give
http://digital-photography-school.com/raw-vs-jpeg
From a personal point of view, I would say that if you are more than happy with your results straight out of the camera, stick with jpg
By all means give RAW a go, but it does involve more work in producing the final images (and additional software, which may or may not have come with your cam |
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Posted - 12 September 2012 : 12:31:45 PM
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i think the points being missed, which is what do you as the individual want from it, one guy eants wet film another sais ooo RAW's and digitize, meanwhile.. whats one to do with the other?
from having a limited roll of film and not beign able to afford to exsplore the posabilities to being able to fire away as many as you want? thats an improvement.
being able to 'extend' your lighting dynamic range..thats another improvement..
being able to art farty..sharpen what ever without being privvy to the best developer in london with the snazzy secret chemicals and know how to make them fantastic prints that no one else could? hell! i'd say a huge! improvement!
nowthen, any noddy and his miss's can do a good foto? yeh right lol. the 'posability' is there now.. but, have you tried processing them fancy new images? its a little beyond a quick click on auto white balance then a tweek on brightness.. infact, its a whole new art of exsperience.... so once again a huge improvement of possabilities, but only when you know how.
if you dont know how, all thats left is gripsing about who who whats awaht and what shouldnt be lol.
and off course the old 'i think you all should be the same as what i am' routine...followed by shout it louder see who's daft enough to listen lol.
the art of photograghy is the art of b.u..ll..sh..i..tt..ing...
untill you actualy know, then its the art wading through reems of woffle, winging, moaning, old boy who's in the know and fitting into groups as 'accepted' etc etc etc...
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Posted - 12 September 2012 : 11:32:53 PM
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| WTF Are you rambling on about?? carpmon43,whatever your on has to be an illegal substance. |
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Posted - 14 September 2012 : 4:19:31 PM
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Carpmon43 -
You DO make a few very valid points, but your posts are SO hard to read, because of the spelling and lack of punctuation.
I'm no English grammar and punctuation snob, but half of the spelling mistakes look like typos caused by your having rushed through your typing and not reviewing your stuff before posting it.
Like you, I refuse to use spellchecks or predictive text, but Hell's bells, it's not a race to be first to the post.
Intended to be constructive.
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Posted - 14 September 2012 : 8:24:15 PM
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| Carpmon43 - u post as if you are talking in a language that has'nt been invented yet! |
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Has the Skill been taken out of photograpy?
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judging by this part of your above post,"if I want a good end result I wouldn't be without CS5" in your case the Answer is YES it is taking the skill out of taking a good picture using the camera alone,which is what my original post was all about.
