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Top Bagger
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Posted - 15 January 2009 :  1:53:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Top Bagger to your friends list
Hi
started making a few of my own wagglers and pole floats but wanted to know wot is the best to seal the float
is it dope? wanted like a good, waterproof, matt finish
Also does anyone know the best way to make the floats arrow straight as i am using a drill and sandpaper at the moment but cannot get them to come out straight
Does anyone else make floats and they come out alright??
if any has got any pics of the making process, i would be extremely grateful
Thanks in advance
Jamie


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Chavender
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Posted - 15 January 2009 :  2:22:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chavender's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Chavender to your friends list
this might help
http://anglerstalk.yuku.com/topic/2059


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Chavender
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Posted - 15 January 2009 :  2:28:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chavender's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Chavender to your friends list
quote :
Also does anyone know the best way to make the floats arrow straight as i am using a drill and sandpaper at the moment but cannot get them to come out straight


do you mean a quill stem ? (feather!) ?

or the shank (wagglers strait body) ?


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Posted - 15 January 2009 :  2:42:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Top Bagger to your friends list
how do u make pole floats arrow straight as the tips and the stem never seem to line up on mine


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Top Bagger
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Posted - 15 January 2009 :  2:47:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Top Bagger to your friends list
thanks for the link chavender but have u made any pole floats??


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gazmalman
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Posted - 15 January 2009 :  3:44:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit gazmalman's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add gazmalman to your friends list
The only answer is to buy or build a lathe im afraid, and even then it will take you sometime to work out how to do it, the single hardest thing about pole float manufacture by a mile believe me.


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Posted - 15 January 2009 :  4:01:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Top Bagger to your friends list
have u got any pics of ur lathe and float making process gaz please? send through pm if u like
wot would u coat the floats with? dope??
thanks
Jamie


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mickthechippy
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best book on the subject is

The Float Makers Manual, by Bill Watson.
published by Earnest Benn,25 new street square, london,in 1978.

ISBN 0-510-22524-1
ISBN 0-510-22522-5pbk

try amazon or ebay

anything you need to know about making traditional floats, loads of piccys
materials,tools,construction,painting/sealing,etc

as Gaz says, its not as easy as you would expect,your gonna throw some right wobbles until you figure it out,

look around Boot fairs for one of the old black and decker drill lathes, and a drill with multi speeds.



why are the next pegs to me vacant?
www.hillbillyfloats.co.uk
www.marukyu.co.uk
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paul14
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Posted - 15 January 2009 :  7:05:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add paul14 to your friends list
quote :
Originally posted by Top Bagger

how do u make pole floats arrow straight as the tips and the stem never seem to line up on mine
ive been down that road and you cant get drilled balsa any where.ive been searching high and low for months,i think nelsons got more chance of getting his eye back...paul


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gazmalman
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Posted - 15 January 2009 :  7:23:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit gazmalman's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add gazmalman to your friends list
Like mick says get to a car boot and get a drill lathe or ebay for a small cheap mini-engineers lathe then prepare to have your head done in for a couple of years!

Finishing- you want sanding sealer, a coat of that then sand down, paint with tamyia acrylic and finish with a yacht varnish. Not exactly how i do it but this will give you a nice finish if you are brush painting.


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Posted - 15 January 2009 :  7:24:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stikflote to your friends list
theres a wood lathe in the classifieds 110



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Posted - 15 January 2009 :  8:44:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit daniel121's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add daniel121 to your friends list
mate ive been designing and making my own floats for years, simply because you cant always get what you need from the tackle shop.

I seal them with yacht varnish, and paint over with odd's and ends paint you can buy from any hobby store.


You only need a lathe if your looking for a professional finsh you need to sell float on. But to use the words of a very sucesssful and inovative fisherman "fish dont like flaats,they are are not intererested in floats or what they look like, so why dont you worry more about how it floats thier dinner down to them rather than how it looks in your box!" He was right. The old saying float catch anglers and not fish comes to mind.


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Posted - 15 January 2009 :  9:00:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit Scott.T's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Scott.T to your friends list
Have a look at this site, that might help you.

http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/C...uilding.html


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Posted - 16 January 2009 :  07:51:27 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Top Bagger to your friends list
Thanks fior the replies everyone but how do u line up the stem and bristle wen makin pole floats?
had a go with an old lathe my dad made for me but still cant get them right??
Any help appreciated


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rourke7719
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Posted - 16 January 2009 :  12:36:19 PM  Show Profile  Visit rourke7719's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add rourke7719 to your friends list
I tried to make my own a while ago, by the time I had bought the materials I needed and tools, bearing in mind I never got it right first time, it ended up costing just as much as it did to buy them. It takes patience and practice to get a good float imo and I would just rather get out there fishing, so I stopped making and started buying again


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jonesr
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Posted - 16 January 2009 :  12:50:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jonesr to your friends list
The one thing you must have is a slow speed drill.It's the speed that throws it out of alignment!

Ron J


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BARRYBLOKE
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Posted - 16 January 2009 :  1:02:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BARRYBLOKE to your friends list
Elderberry pith is far easier to work with than balsa and free.

I no longer make pole floats. Theres so many varied patterns and extremely good quality floats going silly cheap on Ebay that its pretty pointless.
When I did used to make them I would drill slowly and gently with sharpened cane from both sides (not trying to get a straight single hole from one side to the other)and then use a single peice of carbon or cane to go straight through.
For a filler and sealer use matt varnish and mix in talcom powder.

Try Dermots Dibbers. I generally get around half a dozen floats off him from a fiver and his quality and choice is absolutely spot on.
My winder trays are full of his floats.
Unless you have a massive burning desire to produce your own floats its a damn sight cheaper and quicker than buying lathes etc.


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Posted - 16 January 2009 :  3:41:12 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Top Bagger to your friends list
whos dermots dibbers? is there a website


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Posted - 16 January 2009 :  3:47:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BARRYBLOKE to your friends list
dermottsdibbers@hotmail.com


There you go mate.Contact him and he will send you a list and prices.
The guys brilliant.


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Posted - 16 January 2009 :  3:57:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Top Bagger to your friends list
Thanks mate


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Craigo
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Posted - 16 January 2009 :  4:03:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Craigo to your friends list
bloke in sheffield used to cover float bodies in a thin coat of araldite and then wet his fingers and smooth it out over the body - gave a good finish if that helps



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