The Maggotdrowners Forum - Glueing hook knots.
The Maggotdrowners Forum
  Maggotdrowning.com
Username: Password: Save Password
    GENERAL TOOLS:  Home Page | Register | Free Email | Active Topics | Search | FAQ | Calendar | Classifieds | Contact us | Advertise | MD's TV
    MEMBER TOOLS:    Log In or Click Here to Register and access these tools.   |   Forgot your Username and/or Password?

 All Forums
 Fishing
 Fishing Talk
 Glueing hook knots.
 New Topic  Topic Locked  Printer Friendly
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  

SUPERTED77
Life Member

Durham
United Kingdom

Member Since
02 March 2012

Posts: 114

Posted - 13 June 2012 :  9:43:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add SUPERTED77 to your friends list
A mate of mine swears by glueing all eyed hook knots when float fishing for carp and tench. 8lb Mainline straight through and a blob of superglue on the knot.
Does anybody else do this and does it make for a stronger knot?
And what knots might benefit from this?

Sponsored Advert

Become a
Site Supporter
and remove
this Advert

 

Advertise here

Google Advert

Become a
Site Supporter
and remove
this Advert

floatfisher
Life Member

Site Supporter

Lancashire
England

Member Since
30 January 2007

Posts: 1669

Status:

Posted - 13 June 2012 :  11:33:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floatfisher to your friends list
If the knot's tied correctly then it shouldn't give way, and the breaking strain of the line certainly isn't going to be increased by putting glue on it. I'd be concerned that the chemicals in the glue could attack and actually weaken nylon monofilament so I'd never consider it personally.



Proud to be a grandad!
Go to Top of Page

walkerc3
Proud Geordie

Site Supporter

Durham
England

Member Since
10 May 2007

Posts: 1159

Status:
Living in USA

Posted - 13 June 2012 :  11:39:39 PM  Show Profile  Send walkerc3 an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add walkerc3 to your friends list
I never glue knots - no need really. Like FF said, if the knot is tied correcly it wont come undone the line will just snap and no amount of glue would stop that from happenening



Wish my lass was an angler, then she would understand...

"In a game of thrones you either win or you die" Cersie Lannister

May 2011 - Lost Fish-in virginity.

August 2011 - Lost me breakfast on peg 30 Beeches Saturday.

April 2012 Maggotdrowner Lindholme Festival - 3rd Overall. Well Done to PaulN for winning.

Edited by - walkerc3 on 13 June 2012 11:40:46 PM
Go to Top of Page

greentura
Life Member

Site Supporter

Kent
United Kingdom

Member Since
06 November 2008

Posts: 6145

Status:
Cane and 'pin, ain't no sin ;)

Posted - 14 June 2012 :  01:23:12 AM  Show Profile  Visit greentura's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add greentura to your friends list
I used to glue braid knots on hooks to a bend to aid hooking but I use shrink tips now. Gluing mono can weaken the knot and if you use the right knot in the first place there is no need to glue



unusual tackle, looks like wood!
if it aint broke it will be soon.....
and on the eighth day there was ebay, and it was sold
Cane and 'pin ain't a sin
><((('<><((('<><((('>
http://traditionalangling.myfreeforum.org
Go to Top of Page

SUPERTED77
Life Member

Durham
United Kingdom

Member Since
02 March 2012

Posts: 114

Posted - 14 June 2012 :  10:35:22 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SUPERTED77 to your friends list
As mentioned above,i thought glueing the knot might make the mono brittle,
knot something i'm gonna try.


Go to Top of Page

Sponsored Advert

Become a
Site Supporter
and remove
this Advert

 

Advertise here

NathanWatson
Life Member

Lincolnshire
United Kingdom

Member Since
19 May 2009

Posts: 4694

Posted - 14 June 2012 :  10:50:33 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NathanWatson to your friends list
Done it in past but think it does weaken the line and with eyed hooks, certainly no need, with spade, just make sure the spade is big enough for the diameter of line and the knot is pulled carefully tight.


Go to Top of Page

Ethics Man
Life Member

Site Supporter

Essex
United Kingdom

Member Since
01 March 2011

Posts: 674

Status:
1 wife, 1 daughter, 1 dog, several rods...

Posted - 14 June 2012 :  10:57:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ethics Man's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Ethics Man to your friends list
For added security I take advantage of being a smoker by gently applying the lighted tip of a fag to the end of the cut-off line. This creates a tiny globule on the end of the line preventing any chance of the knot pulling through.



Why is it that when we're talking to God it's praying, yet when he talks to us we're barking?

Warning: May contain nuts
Go to Top of Page

Dslayer
Life Member

United Kingdom

Member Since
26 March 2011

Posts: 605

Posted - 14 June 2012 :  10:51:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dslayer to your friends list
I glue braid knots but not mono ones....


Go to Top of Page

JohnC
Life Member

Site Supporter

Oxfordshire
United Kingdom

Member Since
11 August 2011

Posts: 235

Status:

Posted - 15 June 2012 :  11:38:03 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JohnC to your friends list
I can remember Matt Hayes saying to glue the knots on mono to prevent it strangling under pressure!! So, it MUST be right!!



Go to Top of Page

Sponsored Advert

Become a
Site Supporter
and remove
this Advert

 

Advertise here

Dslayer
Life Member

United Kingdom

Member Since
26 March 2011

Posts: 605

Posted - 15 June 2012 :  12:59:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dslayer to your friends list
quote :
Originally posted by JohnC

I can remember Matt Hayes saying to glue the knots on mono to prevent it strangling under pressure!! So, it MUST be right!!


Can see the theory... as the wraps are held in place by the glue then unable to move and constrict....

But the practice? Like others said what effect does the glue's solvents have on the mono material itself? Does the stiffening that occurs at the point where the line exits the wraps in itself create a new weak point, etc?

Reckon could be a case of 6 of one, half a dozen of the other ... ?


Go to Top of Page

steveevans9
Life Member

Gloucestershire
United Kingdom

Member Since
01 July 2009

Posts: 290

Posted - 15 June 2012 :  7:29:26 PM  Show Profile  Click to see steveevans9's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add steveevans9 to your friends list
Tried it once and got snapped up loads times and couldnt understand why then remembered what ide done never again lol it burns the line if you are going to try it use a special glue.


Go to Top of Page

Google Advert

Become a
Site Supporter
and remove
this Advert

Hatman
Drawbag ace

Site Supporter

West Yorkshire
England

Member Since
17 April 2007

Posts: 4959

Status:
I hate rain

Posted - 15 June 2012 :  7:44:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit Hatman's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Hatman to your friends list
No need to glue a knotless knot in my opinion, an utterly reliable knot, & I can't see a reason other than hair rigging to use an eyed hook.



Cypry Diem
Wots that all about then?
http://www.middytackle.com
My blog, will be starting again soon
http://chrishatman.xanga.com/weblog
Go to Top of Page

panda1975
Member

Gloucestershire
United Kingdom

Member Since
09 April 2012

Posts: 37

Posted - 15 June 2012 :  7:52:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add panda1975 to your friends list
the only thing i have found with dabbing super glue on to knots is that it makes thats area a little stiffer and it goes an off white coloure where it touches


Go to Top of Page

Sponsored Advert

Become a
Site Supporter
and remove
this Advert

 

Advertise here

Hatchye
Life Member

Site Supporter

Bedfordshire
England

Member Since
14 June 2004

Posts: 2865

Status:

Posted - 15 June 2012 :  8:25:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hatchye to your friends list
Don't use glue simply keep the knot under constant tension for 5-0 secs after tying it.



Go to Top of Page

Dslayer
Life Member

United Kingdom

Member Since
26 March 2011

Posts: 605

Posted - 15 June 2012 :  8:41:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dslayer to your friends list
quote :
Originally posted by Hatman

No need to glue a knotless knot in my opinion, an utterly reliable knot, & I can't see a reason other than hair rigging to use an eyed hook.


Sorry but a knotless knot is TOTALLY unreliable and liable to failure at any time due to rubbing on the sharp edge of the eye. Otherwise I can see no reason NOT to use a eyed hook... spades are worse than knotless knots for wearing at the spade edges IMHO.


Go to Top of Page

SUPERTED77
Life Member

Durham
United Kingdom

Member Since
02 March 2012

Posts: 114

Posted - 15 June 2012 :  9:43:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SUPERTED77 to your friends list
I have more confidence in eyed hooks when fishing for carp.
But which knots offer greater strength? a spade end hook tyed with a hook tyer or
or an eyed version with a palomar or seven turn tucked half blood knot?
Any opinions?


Go to Top of Page

Hatman
Drawbag ace

Site Supporter

West Yorkshire
England

Member Since
17 April 2007

Posts: 4959

Status:
I hate rain

Posted - 15 June 2012 :  9:51:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit Hatman's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Hatman to your friends list
Dslayer - I've only ever had that problem with 1 pattern of hook, temporarily anyway. Possible sharp edge on 1 side of the eye, 2 directions you can wind the line round the hook & so determine the route of the line through the eye. Sorted



Cypry Diem
Wots that all about then?
http://www.middytackle.com
My blog, will be starting again soon
http://chrishatman.xanga.com/weblog
Go to Top of Page

Sponsored Advert

Become a
Site Supporter
and remove
this Advert

 

Advertise here

woolavy
Life Member

Site Supporter

Somerset
United Kingdom

Member Since
29 November 2011

Posts: 1314

Status:
Why alway carp, carp, carp?

Posted - 15 June 2012 :  10:07:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit woolavy's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add woolavy to your friends list
Also, sometimes superglue will eat away at the nylon/line due to the solvents.
Knots, if tied properly, shouldnt slip etc.....



Would love to say I'm a 'top class all-rounder'......but I would not be telling the whole truth!!


woolavy's blog
Go to Top of Page

Branny
Life Member

Site Supporter

Gt.Manchester
United Kingdom

Member Since
24 June 2010

Posts: 994

Status:

Posted - 15 June 2012 :  10:27:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Branny to your friends list
Once used rig glue on my knots. Every single one snapped.



Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 New Topic  Topic Locked  Printer Friendly
Jump To:
 

Maggotdrowning.com    Contact us    Disclaimer    Donations    Support MDs © Maggotdrowning.com, 2001-2013 Go To Top Of Page

Snitz Forums 2000
Display: 1.01 seconds.