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buygoodtackle
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tomownz182
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 Posted - 14 May 2012 : 5:16:42 PM
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| quote : Originally posted by dstevquote : Originally posted by Big-Bronze
Preston Reflo power 0.20 5lb is no more supple line than Maxima Red Chameleon Low Viz 0.20 5lb
so yes ok on the pole
I was talking about Daiwa Sensor, and 0.20 Powerline would break at about 8lb anyway, so no comparison really.
Pole lines tend to be pre-stretched mono which gives them the low diamater for lb ratio. However because of the lack of stretch they are useless on the reel as they will just snap. The elastic buffers the fish movement alot better than the rod tip and so it doesnt matter about having no stretch when pole fishing.
Because of the lower diamiter to lb ratio i believe that for use on the pole lines such as powerline and silkshock are better than maxima and sensor.
I use both powerline and silkshock depending on the swim. Powerline seems to have better abraison resistance but is marginally thicker than silk shock so when fishing in a swim with snags i will tend to use powerline and in open swims silk shock. |
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Posted - 14 May 2012 : 5:35:37 PM
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| quote : Originally posted by dstevquote : Originally posted by Big-Bronze
Preston Reflo power 0.20 5lb is no more supple line than Maxima Red Chameleon Low Viz 0.20 5lb
so yes ok on the pole
I was talking about Daiwa Sensor, and 0.20 Powerline would break at about 8lb anyway, so no comparison really.
i think if u look at the Daiwa Sensor line @ 0.20 it's 4lb  |
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Posted - 14 May 2012 : 5:45:33 PM
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| Silstar matchteam for me, used it forever and i dont need to think about it thanks to my confidence in it. |
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Posted - 14 May 2012 : 6:34:44 PM
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| quote : Originally posted by Big-Bronzequote : Originally posted by dstevquote : Originally posted by Big-Bronze
Preston Reflo power 0.20 5lb is no more supple line than Maxima Red Chameleon Low Viz 0.20 5lb
so yes ok on the pole
I was talking about Daiwa Sensor, and 0.20 Powerline would break at about 8lb anyway, so no comparison really. I also use Sensor. In fact I use it for everything and don't have a problem. However I do not fish matches and only fish for my own pleasure. Can be bothered to have lots of different spools of line for different applications. i think if u look at the Daiwa Sensor line @ 0.20 it's 4lb |
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Posted - 14 May 2012 : 6:54:19 PM
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Reflo power line for me.Both as main line and hook length
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Posted - 14 May 2012 : 9:54:29 PM
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Posted - 14 May 2012 : 10:37:50 PM
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| quote : Originally posted by Big-Bronzequote : Originally posted by dstevquote : Originally posted by Big-Bronze
Preston Reflo power 0.20 5lb is no more supple line than Maxima Red Chameleon Low Viz 0.20 5lb
so yes ok on the pole
I was talking about Daiwa Sensor, and 0.20 Powerline would break at about 8lb anyway, so no comparison really. i think if u look at the Daiwa Sensor line @ 0.20 it's 4lb
And you were talking about 6lb Sensor!
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Posted - 14 May 2012 : 10:39:11 PM
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6lb where did i post 6lb ?
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Posted - 14 May 2012 : 11:26:55 PM
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| quote : Listed with impressive strength to dia ratios such as .12 = 2.2 kg.
Its either not a .12 or it won`t hold 2.2kg, with that breakingstrength it`s more likely a .14.
quote : Colmic Stream for me... 0.165 = 4.05kg... 9lb bs
That breakingstrain is absurdly high, even good .20 lines hardly reach that. But that is very typically for italian lines, they often label their lines a lot higher than the real bs, the same for Tubertini.
My absolute fav in "bad" labeling is the Berkley Sensithin Ultra which is given a bs of 7.2kg at 0.20.
I did a lot i-net research on the topic and tested a lot of lines which i got a hold on.
The highest breakingstrength a line tested according to ISO2062 has in my opinion (no guarantee given)is:
0.12 - 1.8kg
0.14 - 2.2kg
0.16 - 2.7kg
0.18 - 3.4kg
0.20 - 4.0kg
The knowhow in producing mono-lines is widespread, and no one has a "golden formula" which allows him beat other brands by far.
Of course there are differences between lines, some are prestreched, some even twice.
Normally this results in higher bs and less strech, but no line has more bs than the values i gave above.
On the contrary most lines have less, and it also reduced by knots and water. Some say you loose 10%, in a test of the TÜV München (technical surveilance association Munich) with 10 different lines the line with the smallest lost still was weakened by 29%.
So if you subtract about 30% of the values above it would be a more realistic approach.
That was strictly generally speaking, i don`t do pole fishing, so i can`t recommend any for that special purpose.
As iam more bound to lines the german market offers, i never tried a Maxima, Daiwa Sensor or a Preston line.
Lines i would rate with a high diameter/bs ratio are:
Stroft GTM (perhaps the best line i know, but also pricy)
Stroft ABR
Quantum Quattron PT (good allrounder)
Dega Centron
DAM Tectan Premium Plus (in my opinion a bit more strechy than the GTM)
Shimano Silk Shock
Sunline Magic Soft (formally Balzer Siglon Magic Soft)
Platil Souverän
The line i use the most is a Dreamtackle Supertouch, which is a solid budget line, probably similiar to the Sensor. As i heard its a discounter relabeled Sufix.
The EFTTA has introduced a linecharter, which you can look up here
http://www.efttalinecharter.com/en
The test of TÜV München is here (sry only in german and a bit old but you get the picture)
http://stroft.de/test_gtm.pdf
Some words to read the charts at the end of the article:
Knotenfestigkeit - breakingstrength
Dehnung - strech
Durchmesser - diameter
ohne Vorbelastung - without preload
mit Vorbelastung - with preload
PKT - points
Warmauslagerung - means a procedure in a heatchamber
Here`s a chart of a private test (not by me):
http://www.angeltreff.org/pdf/schnurtest.pdf
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Posted - 15 May 2012 : 12:59:29 AM
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| quote : Originally posted by daleyRANGERquote : Originally posted by pauln
silstar match team ( old faithful )
It is very good with no memory Middy Lo-Viz is great...give it a go
Tried it same as match team but clear in colour.
TBH I have tried a lot of lines
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