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Posted - 23 August 2011 :  9:39:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Brick-Top's Homepage Bookmark this topic Add Brick-Top to your friends list
I'm targeting carp between 5-10lb with perhaps the rare bonus going over but am struggling to nail down the 'perfect hook'. I've been moving between alsorts really and after someones recommendation. I'll generally be using an 8lb main with 6/7lb hooklength

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Posted - 23 August 2011 :  9:49:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thetraveller to your friends list
Tubertini 175 for spade end. For hair rigs on the tip the QM1 or the Drennan hair-riggers in size 12 in the purple packets for a cheaper hook.


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Posted - 23 August 2011 :  9:51:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rubberducky to your friends list
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like it.
just need to know first which hooks youve already tried?
i have a few fave hook patterns but also first we will need more info regarding situations and methods you enjoy using. for example method feeder using a hair or snag fishing hit and hold style.
hooks can drive you round the bend...
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Posted - 23 August 2011 :  9:54:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add multiplex to your friends list
fox carp match hooks or preston 36 (i think) im sure my mate uses tubertini 808 or 175 (i think ....again) how about them guru hooks, sorry dont really fish for carp much so use what the shop sells at the time.


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Posted - 23 August 2011 :  10:03:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit spanky's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add spanky to your friends list
I'm a big of the drennan carp feeder barbless hooks (both eyed and spade) for my carp work (both pole and feeder work). Strong and with a slight turn that seems to hold the fish well, plus they come in sizes up to 8 which can be useful when doubles are regularly targeted.



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Posted - 23 August 2011 :  10:04:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit Brick-Top's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Brick-Top to your friends list
Thanks guys, sorry for the lack of info. Ive tried kamasan animals - 14 kamasan x-strong - 14 drennan carp match - 14 and a mustad variety but I forget the pattern. If you could recommend a hook for both hair rigging and a standard that would be great. Oh and Ive tried the drennan hair rig hooks but only in a 16 with some lighter gear, slightly off point I found it very awkward tieing a knotless not on to this trying to get the first few turns on the shank due to the tapered eye, I managed but is there an easier way?


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Posted - 23 August 2011 :  10:17:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit wireman's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add wireman to your friends list
Personaly I use the Preston PR36.
With what your targeting I'd use a sz 14 or 12.


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a thin ish wire hook but look at the middy 93-13 a very good hook i have used the same hook on a sat,sunday and tues matchs, was still as sharp when i had done with it as when i 1st used it and that was with 3 100lb+ catchs and had fiosh to around 16lb too on black hydro with .16 colmic line about 9lb even when it bottomed out with the odd foul hooked fish it was still ok and never opened up at all


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Posted - 24 August 2011 :  05:41:05 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Neil ofthe nene to your friends list
I use the Fox Match Carp 2 eyed barbless size 18 successfully for the type of carp you are targetting. Both on the pole and feeder. I believe you can get an extra strong version of this hook also.




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quote :
Originally posted by Neil ofthe nene

I use the Fox Match Carp 2 eyed barbless size 18 successfully for the type of carp you are targetting. Both on the pole and feeder. I believe you can get an extra strong version of this hook also.



Ditto, and .....err...ditto

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A 6lb to 7lb hooklength is very high, unless you are fishing up to snags. I fish 0.14 (4.5lbs) at maximum for snag free water and don't have a problem getting broken, but if I pulled harder I know they would pull back harder, so I don't!



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I use similar strength Line and Hook lengteh I been using Kamasan Animals in 12 and 10 Paste for bait had carp to 12lb and a cat of 14.5 no problem except the act wrecked my hook length !




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kamasan animals i used to use, till I got multiple size 10/12s straightened out fishing to snags by fish around 10lb. they just aint strong enough for that type of hit and hold style approach.
i no longer use these - its all about confidence isnt it!

esp raptor or korda mixa hooks do the business here and ive found the smaller 10/12 sizes best. these even holding fish to 18 lb out of weed and snags. I just need a pole that can cope with the extreme hauling required but thats another story...

Ive just recently used a new hook in my first attempt at a low strength, lower diameter balanced match size carp set up aimed at getting me more bites on these type of waters.

It worked!

using a shakey mach 3 reel, maver abyss x 10 ft match rod with maver genesis 4.2 lb mainline, i caught a few dozen carp to 6 1/2 lb in open water no problem. (apart from one snap which i think was down to not changing my hooklength often enough!)

The new Fox series 2 match carp eyed barbless hooks were brilliant for this type of fishing.
I couldnt believe how much confidence and control using such a small (16 or 18), hook can give you.
I was guiding and pressuring them to the net and playing them off the drag all day with upmost confidence the hook was going to hold and stay in.
I plan to buy a few more sizes of this hook to investigate the possibility these are the best hooks for me for all fishing applications and scenarios. (and like you, give me a sporting chance if a bigger bonus fish is hooked during a session).

I also took recommendation from this site forum regarding guru mwgs which ive used in size 10 on the method feeder and they are a belting hook too.

For catfishing I use drennan specimen hooks in a 2 or 4 as these could quite possibly pull down a tree if you hooked one.

good luck whatever you choose.

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Posted - 24 August 2011 :  12:09:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit billy the blank's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add billy the blank to your friends list
I Dont think carp 5-10lb need such heavy hooks unless you are dragging them away from snags. If open water its possible to land these on 0.16 -0.18 line and hooks like Drennan hair riggers or wide gape carp for spade end.


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Posted - 24 August 2011 :  6:14:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hatchye to your friends list
Tubertini 175s in sizes 1 through to 5 (maggots through to paste)


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Posted - 24 August 2011 :  7:51:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit AL_Peters's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add AL_Peters to your friends list
Guru for me mate they do 2 types have a look and see wha you think i like the mwg hooks these are a brilliant hook mate....


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fox series, the red packet one, 10's to 18's...

drennan margin carp

drennan specimen

prestons wide gape pr24's are good on finiky days, bar the od pull out.

try team england 6lb hooklegth (mine breaks at 5.5ish..test it for legth,shorter breaks easier than longer, on both rod 8lb main and pole 6lb maxima that breaks at 6.1lb on pole). up to mid doubles on both.



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Try ESP Raptors i found them great.



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Posted - 25 August 2011 :  5:19:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit Brick-Top's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Brick-Top to your friends list
Thanks guys, the hooklink is on the strong side for the size but I like to fish the line clip against an island full of reeds so the strong line, hook is there to gain early ground on the fish without hitting the clips, cheers, I'll tye some of these up and give them a try


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Fox series 2.


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preston pr36's or guru qm1


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