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Meat Man
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 Posted - 12 July 2011 : 04:24:47 AM
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Hair rigs. Myth or fact that you shouldn't use below an 0.15 for hair rigs.
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Posted - 12 July 2011 : 07:27:42 AM
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| Probably just someones opinion like a million other things, I've never heard it said? |
You know that little thing in your head that keeps you from sayin things you should'nt?...well I don't have one of those! |
Edited by - rooster on 12 July 2011 07:28:31 AM |
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Posted - 12 July 2011 : 09:33:27 AM
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| When hair rigging for smaller fish, 'match carp' and F1s, I find 0.12 is often enough for waggler or pole, but its not strong enough for a method hair rig - i don't go below 0.14 for that and usually use 0.16+ If your fishing in winter then you can get away with lower BS line since they are too cold too pull hard. One famous angler i know uses as low as 0.10 on hair rigs on waggler (conventional waggler with a small hook & pellet for small carp, not pellet waggler with an 8mm or 10mm pellet), but that's too light for me. |
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Posted - 12 July 2011 : 09:40:31 AM
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I often use 0.12 and 0.14 (for smaller carp and/or winter) for the tip
For the pole I use 0.12 with a hair a lot. (with 12 latex) for carp averaging 5lb |
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supersuperleeds
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Posted - 12 July 2011 : 09:47:10 AM
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| If you tell me what 0.15 is in old money I may be able to give an opinion. I hair rig 4lb line and 6lb line, what that is in relation to 0.15 I have no idea. |
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carpmon43
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GOZZER
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Posted - 12 July 2011 : 1:08:31 PM
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For those that might not be up on the Break strength to diameter here is a table that is a good guide....
LINE DIAMETER.....AVERAGE BREAKING STRAIN.
0.06 mm --------- 12oz
0.07---------- 1lb 2oz
0.08---------- 1lb 12oz
0.09---------- 2lb
0.10----------2lb 6oz
0.11-----------2lb14oz
0.12---------- 3lb 4oz
0.14---------- 4lb 12oz
0.16-----------5lb 10oz
0.18----------- 6lb 8oz
0.20----------7lb 12oz
0.22---------- 9lb
0.24---------- 10lb 4oz
0.26----------- 11lb 6oz
There you go,this is only a guide and some lines do vary a little so a 0.15mm is just over 5lb break strain. |
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Posted - 12 July 2011 : 1:33:27 PM
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| quote : Originally posted by GOZZER
For those that might not be up on the Break strength to diameter here is a table that is a good guide....
LINE DIAMETER.....AVERAGE BREAKING STRAIN.
0.06 mm --------- 12oz
0.07---------- 1lb 2oz
0.08---------- 1lb 12oz
0.09---------- 2lb
0.10----------2lb 6oz
0.11-----------2lb14oz
0.12---------- 3lb 4oz
0.14---------- 4lb 12oz
0.16-----------5lb 10oz
0.18----------- 6lb 8oz
0.20----------7lb 12oz
0.22---------- 9lb
0.24---------- 10lb 4oz
0.26----------- 11lb 6oz
There you go,this is only a guide and some lines do vary a little so a 0.15mm is just over 5lb break strain.
What a load of tosh.
Ive use hi-tec 8lb line that is 0.14mm diameter and also 8lb 0.25mm fluorocarbon. i have a lot of faith in both lines and both have caught me plenty of fish as hooklengths and hair lines.
working with diameters is nonsense unless you are refering to just one specific line manufacturers range.
whilst some of us "might not be up" on current modern and seemingly pretentious issues regarding line, its clear that line diameters do not vary a little as stated. they vary a hell of a lot!
its easy to get bogged down in the current mass of available lines out there, but there are usually 4 things I consider important when choosing lines for mainline, rigline, hooklengths or hairs.
breaking strain.
diameter
freshness
suitability (fluoro, clear, abrasion resistance etc...)
hope this helps.
rubberducky...
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GOZZER
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Posted - 12 July 2011 : 2:11:31 PM
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Rubberducky...If you read my post you will see i said it is a guide and i did say they vary,if i had the time i would have gone into this in more detail but i thought it best not to over complecate things.
Look at what you said...you said you use 0.25 flurocarbon line to 8lb bs...now look at the table only one pound in it so i don't think it is a load of tosh at all....i never mentioned hi tech lines as those are very different to standard lines.
My post was to give people a rough idea of line diameters to break strengths and not a run down on hi tech lines and so on,if you think it is tosh fine but i hope some will find it of help...one thing i found out years ago was to NOT over complicate things,keep things simple and people will follow it better,you might know everything in the book but does everyone else? |
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GOZZER
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Posted - 12 July 2011 : 2:18:13 PM
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| Ho and by the way supersuperleeds asked a question about line diameters has he did not know what they where and asked what a 0.15 was hense the table so i hope he finds it of help and not a load of tosh. |
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carpmon43
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Posted - 15 July 2011 : 12:49:42 AM
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the only real advice on line diameter to breaking strain is unfortunatly to buy a vernia scale and see what it breaks at with a set of scales or other testing device.
buy n try because they blaintently lie. |
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