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MartynRedfern
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Posted - 10 January 2011 :  1:10:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add MartynRedfern to your friends list
Quick question,

I am fishing a venue at the weekend, a small lake around 7ft to 12ft deep. It is prodominently filled with skimmers around the 1 lb mark with odd carp. It has not been fished for around 7 weeks and the ice is just about clearing (the last of it will be broken up by a rowing boat on Friday). Now the question:

As this is a match I want to go with a plan. Therefore I propose to just go for it, and put a ball of groundbait in on one line say 13m-14.5m with pinkies and casters angled to the right. Then angled to the left put a small thumb size ball of micropellets. thus fishing positively and negatively.

In years gone by matches are usually won in the winter with anything from 20lb to 30lb.

Does anybody think the gourndbait may be too positive?

ps, rigs will be pencil flat, wire stem around 0.4 to 0.5 depending on conditions, 0.10 mainline to 0.08 bottoms, size 20 silver pellet for soft pellets and likely the same hook for the pinkie and caster to be fair.

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billy the blank
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Posted - 10 January 2011 :  1:26:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billy the blank to your friends list
I dont fish venues with that much depth but there is a local lake that is upto 7 foot deep and the way I like to approach it at this time of year is to have a negative rig set up and if you cant find fish on your positive line just use a rig that you can read the shot on the float as they settle. Trickle a couple of maggots in and watch for signs. I rarely catch on the bottom when this works and on a venue that deep I doubt i would have sucess on the deck due to the cold water, so for me this would be a rig I would at least have set up. This is a good rig to start with before any bait is fed in any quantity just to get a feel of how the fish are moving/feeding.


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MartynRedfern
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Posted - 10 January 2011 :  1:31:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MartynRedfern to your friends list
Thanks Billy, I had not thought of fishing on the drop or shallower. My mind appears warped on winter on the deck and shallow in the summer. You make a good point on the colder water being on the deck. I have not yet made the rigs up, however will definately now take that on board.


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Posted - 10 January 2011 :  2:59:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chappo to your friends list
Hi Martyn - is bloodworm and joker allowed ? It isn't that hard to fish if you haven't used it before and will always winkle out the old skimbos! if you haven't fished it before you'll need a steady hand and 24s or smaller.



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matchstickman25
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Posted - 10 January 2011 :  3:05:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add matchstickman25 to your friends list
From experience I'd fish small balls of fishmeal regularly with micros and pinkies. Fish pinkie on the hook. if skimmers resond well, change to a bigger hook and fish 4mm expander. Sometimes you might wait an hour for a bite. You can often see sport then get better and better, especially as the light fades. Dont be surprised if you start getting bites on the drop, especially from roach, rogue carp and even tench.



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A safe bet for skimmers is to feed small nuggets of wetted micros and fish maggot or soft pellet over it.


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neil parker
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Posted - 10 January 2011 :  6:01:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add neil parker to your friends list
hi, steve ringer has done a feature in this months pole fishing mag that might interest you


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MartynRedfern
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Posted - 10 January 2011 :  9:02:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MartynRedfern to your friends list
Chaps, thanks for the help. Chappo I did think about Bloodworm and joker as not fished it for years but not so easy to get hold of in Ipswich. You have all given me some food for thought, will also pick up pole fishing mag.


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Posted - 11 January 2011 :  4:06:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chappo to your friends list
Thinking about it Martyn I bet there has been no pools free enough to scrape it from so (if its difficult to get near you) it would make it almost impossible.Pinkies and squatts mate in a tiny bit of darkish slop and a micro pellet/mag line. Over the shelf if there is one.



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MartynRedfern
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Posted - 11 January 2011 :  6:51:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MartynRedfern to your friends list
Cheers chappo


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diviy
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Posted - 11 January 2011 :  8:02:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add diviy to your friends list
I went out sunday and the chap fishing with me gave me loads of advice
I would fish one line with micro pellets as a feed put a golf size in leave line for a hour then a nats dick of micros and use pellet at dead depth had 11lb of skimmers and roach from that line in the end feed to the bites in the end I was using 6mm expanders on the hook happy days
considering its the first time I fished pellet like that I was well happy he had 25lb fishing the same way.



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poyd
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Posted - 11 January 2011 :  8:53:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add poyd to your friends list
Squatt in groundbait with leam - pinkie on hook (22 mustad wg match) - 4 elastic with .07 hooklength for me


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